Some moments of particular interest in their conversation:

0:00 The problem of complicating a simple sharing of the Gospel

3:00 What Pope Francis says about “pastoral ministry in a missionary style,” and the difference between kerygma and catechesis

5:56 The problem in Church ministry of confusing “not caring” with “not knowing”

9:15 The need to create spaces of belonging for people who don’t believe yet

12:17 Why we must avoid “spiritual vampirism” and truly reflect the heart of the Father

14:43 Alpha is great for those of us who may not have the charism of evangelization

17:32 Alpha as a program vs. Alpha as a culture

21:29 Looking at Alpha as a leadership pipeline

23:05 Looking outward to “the peripheries”

28:35 The “gravitational pull” to be inward focused, and why we need to fight it

Takeaway quote: “The whole thing (Alpha) is geared up to welcome the outsider and just love that person like crazy.”

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